Post from Corwin Amber's Blog:
Credit Union lending
Here are the facts on Credit Union lending and how it compares with the 'evil' payday lenders.

CREDIT UNION (STRETCHPAY):
Credit limits/minimum advances of $250 (with an annual fee of $35) or $500 (with an annual fee of $70);
APR of 18% (or any higher rate the state sets): $7.50 for a 30-day loan. Total Cost $77.50.

EVIL, EVIL PAYDAY LENDER:
"expensive for-profit payday lenders that often charge $15 per $100" - That's from the Credit Union's page. Some payday lenders charge less, but that was the highest rate they could find.
Total Cost $75.00.

It's no wonder the CREDIT UNIONS and other lending institutions are behind this push to remove payday lenders from Ohio. They want to cash in.

The truth is right there. CREDIT UNIONS will actually be charging MORE than the payday lenders.

If you don't believe it, look at their own page:
http://www.ohiocreditunions.org/StretchPay/CUInfo.htm

Reader Comments
  
APR
By Dave Harding, ProgressOhio Aug 13th 2008 at 7:11 am EDT
You need to learn what the term APR means.

You're comparing cost for a two week "payday" loan with the annualized cost of a loan from a credit bureau.

You need to compare credit costs using the APR (the government standard and basis for comparing credit costs) for each creditor.

In the example you provide, the annualized cost is 18% APR for a credit bureau loan (far under the 28% limit the paydayers claim they can't meet) and 391% APR for a payday day loan.

Trying to make mathematical points without apparently understanding what APR is makes your post a losing case.
  
Check your facts again!
By Free Fallin Aug 13th 2008 at 9:53 am EDT
What Corwin also needs to realize is that he made another great point about why payday loans are much worse: the credit unions have an ANNUAL FEE! Paid once! Not paid every two weeks! So, not only do payday lenders charge more the first time a person takes out a loan, they charge much higher rates every time after that! So, take a look at their own page again and you'll realize there is no comparison!
You are both wrong
By Corwin Aug 14th 2008 at 8:20 pm EDT (Updated Aug 14th 2008 at 8:20 pm EDT)
The comparison I made was a valid one. And simple to follow. And is a typical need.

The anti-payday lending crowd want to compare taking out loans as often as one could for an entire year. This is a terrible comparison. The whole idea is to help someone short term. Their need is short term. The individual seeks a loan due to an unforeseen need rearing it's head prior to them having the money to pay for it.

The amounts are real. You pay to join a credit union (if they let you at all), they charge an annual fee, and then they tack on the highest allowed rate in the state. In this case, you will paying MORE to the Credit Union.

This means there will be real people whom you will force to either seek an out-of-state lender, an internet lender, or will have to pay more.

This is a bad bill.
APR! APR! APR!
By Dave Harding, ProgressOhio Aug 14th 2008 at 9:29 pm EDT (Updated Aug 14th 2008 at 9:29 pm EDT)
People like you are exactly the reason the United States established Annual Percentage Rate (APR) as the mandated credit standard for expressing the cost of credit.

You apparently don't understand the basic math of calculating cost of credit and could easily be taken advantage of in a transaction involving credit.

Because APR is the cost of credit on an annualized basis it allows for a direct "apples to apples comparison" of such costs between different credit providers.

The only question needed to make a comparison between the cost of credit from the credit bureau and the cost of credit from the payday lender is which is higher 18% or 391%.

Until you understand the the basics of cost of credit and APR you will not have a clue as to why your arguments presented in this post as well as your comments about it are absolutely ridiculous.
Re: You are both wrong
By VOTE YES ON ISSUE 5 Aug 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EDT (Updated Aug 15th 2008 at 11:42 am EDT)
No, Corwin, you are wrong! The industry CLAIMS that this is a short term product. It's NOT! The payday lobby's OWN paid researchers acknowledge that the average borrower remains in the debt trap for 18-24 months. Is that short term? No, IT's NOT. You're just plain WRONG!
  
It’s no secret that the economy...
By Installment Loans Oct 9th 2008 at 4:06 am EDT (Updated Oct 9th 2008 at 4:06 am EDT)
It’s no secret that the economy is in the trash, and Americans are looking for some kind of relief. We are facing the worst financial crises since the Great Depression; folks are defaulting on their mortgage payments, fuel costs are outrageous, and unless you have a spotless credit history a loan might be out of the question. The middle class is struggling and the notion of the American dream is diminishing. This load doesn’t seem to be getting lighter, especially when politicians, who caused this mess, are trying to ban the one thing that could help you out in your time of need. In Washington, there has been a bi-partisan effort to hinder, even ban, the payday loan industry. These politicians tend to accuse the industry with what they call “predatory lending.” This commonly used term in Washington just shows how out of touch they are from Main Street. I’m sure that these politicians don’t know what it’s like to be a single father living paycheck to paycheck while trying to raise two children. A payday loan can be an excellent financial tool if used responsibly, but I guess they wouldn’t understand that. With that said, please educate yourself on the issues that affect you the most and exercise your right to vote.

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Re: It’s no secret that the economy...
By OHliz Oct 9th 2008 at 7:29 am EDT (Updated Oct 9th 2008 at 7:29 am EDT)
A trashed economy is all the more reason to regulate lenders. Poor oversight got us into this mess.
  



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